Disassembly
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Re: Disassembly
Probably good enough. Repairing often requires creativity.newhumanoid schreef: 09 apr 2023 14:02 I don't understand how to separate.
Well, I decided otherwise. Soldered the reverse ends.
But what?Where can you buy it?
Without context or schematics difficult to say. Looks like an X or Y capacitor.The denomination is not visible. Burned out designationcond.png
You mean 0163? Or wrong pic? There's nothing behind it? Or you mean "What does the number mean"? It's probably some company internal part number.What is this mysterious detail behind the number 023721 3218 766.0164
Re: Disassembly
Looks like a filter circuit. It was probably an X-cap.
https://www.doeeet.com/content/eee-comp ... explained/
The other part is not a standard part, so you really need to either be able to measure, have the schematic or het the past from the manufacturer
https://www.doeeet.com/content/eee-comp ... explained/
The other part is not a standard part, so you really need to either be able to measure, have the schematic or het the past from the manufacturer
Re: Disassembly
The round blue part is most likely a VDR, a Voltage Dependent Resistor, the diameter gives the power, the voltage is most likely 275 VAC
The wire to board things are most likely 6,35 mm slide contact connectors with some kind of a lock, sometimes you have to slide the housing upwards to disengage the lock, here an example of a TE Connectivity connector.
The wire to board things are most likely 6,35 mm slide contact connectors with some kind of a lock, sometimes you have to slide the housing upwards to disengage the lock, here an example of a TE Connectivity connector.
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Re: Disassembly
This looks like a crowbar circuit.
Look at picture below.
The VDR should be high ohm untill the input voltage exceeds the value on the VDR (As Ben said usually 275V in EU).
At that point the VDR will drop low in resistance and shorts the fase and neutral which blows the Fuse, thereby protecting the circuit behind it.
In your case either there was a lightning strike which can cause huge damage also in the circuit behind (lightning struck electronics is 90% game over).
Or there was so much power that the VDR could not handle it.
If I were you I would replace the fuse first, see if the electronics still work (the vdr is only extra safety has no effect on working of the rest of the electronics.
If they still work then also replace the vdr with a bigger power rating as the current one and still at 275V.

Look at picture below.
The VDR should be high ohm untill the input voltage exceeds the value on the VDR (As Ben said usually 275V in EU).
At that point the VDR will drop low in resistance and shorts the fase and neutral which blows the Fuse, thereby protecting the circuit behind it.
In your case either there was a lightning strike which can cause huge damage also in the circuit behind (lightning struck electronics is 90% game over).
Or there was so much power that the VDR could not handle it.
If I were you I would replace the fuse first, see if the electronics still work (the vdr is only extra safety has no effect on working of the rest of the electronics.
If they still work then also replace the vdr with a bigger power rating as the current one and still at 275V.

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Re: Disassembly
without explanation 
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Ik ben voor meer techniek op school, maar dan wel vanaf groep 1 basischool.
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Re: Disassembly
How can that be?
Then it was not just a normal overvoltage or the fuse / VDR combination was choosen incorrectly by the manufacturer.
Then it was not just a normal overvoltage or the fuse / VDR combination was choosen incorrectly by the manufacturer.
Re: Disassembly
Good point. I think you're right. Haven't designed motor circuits, but that seems a common part at that placebenkr schreef: 09 apr 2023 15:40 The round blue part is most likely a VDR, a Voltage Dependent Resistor, the diameter gives the power, the voltage is most likely 275 VAC
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Re: Disassembly
I just looked but the only ones I have are these 250VAC 60J 2.5kA
The diameter is 11mm. I think they are too small for your application.
https://www.tme.eu/en/details/var10-250 ... -passives/
The diameter is 11mm. I think they are too small for your application.
https://www.tme.eu/en/details/var10-250 ... -passives/
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That is the problem, I know that in East Europe and more Eastwards our common companies do not operate in that area, there are the same sort of companies in that area of the world but i can't find them.newhumanoid schreef: 09 apr 2023 19:08 If it's not difficult, give a link where you can buy
VDR is not far from me. I live in Nistelrod

